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This is a story and a set of characters you’ve addressed before. Why did you want to return to them?

You end up falling in love with the characters you create, especially because I’ve been touring with them for so long. I’m living with them every night on stage when I’m singing about them, then in the day drafting the novel on the tour bus.

They seem to inhabit every space - you walk around and you live with them and they become fiercer and brighter and for some reason I didn’t feel done with them - they kept wanting to come out.

Did you find writing in prose liberating compared to the formal restrictions of poetry?

I didn’t feel a bigger freedom in prose because I don’t find poetry that constraining. Yes it has to be precise, but I find that exciting and the precision needed for a poem actually gives me more freedom to go a bit further into meaning or moment. What I find about prose is it’s a different language; it’s a different experience.

All my life I’ve been writing prose but not publicly. I write often: when I’m moving through the city I’m often just so blown away by encounters and situations. I’ll carry a notebook. I’ll be writing verbatim things I overhear.

I used to get frustrated asking, 'Why am I writing journalistic-style entries when I should be writing a play or a novel?' I felt so urgently I needed to make my mark and get moving, I was distraught about all this writing I was generating that wasn’t a novel.

When the idea came that merited the form and I finally sat down to write, I realised I had been developing my voice for years, and every single scrap I’d scoured with undisciplined scribbles was really helpful in making me feel at ease with sentence structure, prose and paragraphs.

Obviously, this is my first novel; I’m a long way from being comfortable with the form. But I got to the end of this epic process and realised I’m now ready to write my first novel.

I think that’s always the way it feels. At the end of a piece of work suddenly you realise what it takes to create a piece of work like that. I feel like I’m one step closer to finding my prose voice, when I’ve been working on my poetic voice for the last ten, fifteen years.

How did it feel to write about them in a novel as well as in poetry and music?

The plan was always that this narrative would exist both as a record and as a novel. When the idea came it came in two camps, and I’ve been trying to get to the end of this story for the last few years.

The characters from Brand New Ancients and the characters from my first play Wasted and album Everybody Down, they walk in and out of this novel.

So this is the last chapter of a body of work with characters I’ve been carrying round for a good few years; a place where they would have this extra space where they could breathe and live, and there’s even a moment in the novel where they begin to live in a different way to the record or in Brand New Ancients.

There’s a world-weary, jaded air to these characters. Is that a generational thing or specific to the experiences of these particular individuals?

I feel that something has happened to this generation, my generation. In the 1950s and 60s there seemed to be hope for change, for imagining something that could change the social climate.

There was a more optimistic use of the imagination to come up with alternatives to the way that things were. There was belief in a movement for change.

I think what we’ve learned - and it’s sad to say - is that we can’t trust anything. Nothing will change. The things that make the world go round are beyond anyone’s control because it’s all about corporate control and profit before people.

This is what we’ve grown up with. Our legacy is this culture of greed and it makes us believe we can’t believe in anything. We don’t trust those who govern for us.

I say we - I don’t mean to speak for anyone other than myself or my characters - there’s just this feeling of disillusionment.

The experiences you write about feel like they’re very familiar to you. How autobiographical is this material?

With all fiction it begins in truth. The best fiction begins in some moment that feels so real and right with you that it sends you to try and make sense of it through writing. The setting, for example - South London - is so huge for me internally; it’s the place I grew up.

It’s such a full place and such an assault on the senses, living amongst so many people. I’m in love with people and living amongst so much life. There’s something about the proximity to that many bodies that I want to write about, that sends me the page or the recording studio.

These are highlights from Kate Tempest’s interview with 鲍鱼tv Radio 4’s . Kate Tempest is currently . The Bricks that Built the Houses is published by Bloomsbury Circus.