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Making History
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Begins TuesdayÌý18 October 2005 , 3.00-3.30 p.m
Sue Cook and the team answer listeners' historical queries and celebrate the way in which we all 'make' history.
Series 12
ProgrammeÌý12
3 January 2006

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Wine Growing in Britain

A Making History listener living in Germany asked whether or not the Romans produced significant amounts of wine while they were in the UK and, if so, what happened to viticulture between then and now?

Making History consulted Professor Philip Scott, a biogeographer at the University of London, and Stephen Skelton, author of The Vineyards of England. The programme also went to Lamberhurst Vineyard in Kent.

Quite simply, Britain has always been on the edge of the area in which wine production is possible. Even during warm periods, such as the years following the Norman Conquest, production was not huge. In colder times (such as the Little Ice Age which began in the early 14th century) wine production would have been impossible. Commercial production of wine in the UK today is only possible because of artificial pesticides and knowledge of selective breeding techniques. The Romans had neither of these and there is limited evidence for either vineyards or wine artefacts.


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Further reading

Stephen Skelton, The Vineyards of England (Skelton, 1989) and The Wines of Britain and Ireland: A Guide to the Vineyards (Mitchell Beazley, 2001)
The Star of Bethlehem

What was the Star of Bethlehem - a literary device or scientific fact?

Making History consulted the astronomer Dr Simon Mitton of Total Astronomy Limited. These are the possibilities that Simon Mitton discussed:
  • It was a comet.
  • It was an exploding star.
  • It was a new star - there was a nova (or new star) in 5 BC recorded by Chinese and Korean astronomers.
  • There was a planetary conjunction - this is the most likely. Jupiter and Saturn were in conjunction three times in 7 BC. This is an event that happens once in 250 years, so would have aroused considerable interest in the educated elite (the so-called 'wise men').

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The Miracle of the Stockport Roses

Was the survival of the "crown of roses" in St Mary's Roman Catholic Church, Stockport, in 1947 a 'miracle' or something more underhand?

Thousands of people from all over Britain, and indeed the rest of the world, made a pilgrimage to see the roses which apparently lasted from May through to October 1947. This is how the Stockport Express of 16 October 1947 reported the story:

'A small wreath of roses has aroused the interest of the world - they have been acclaimed as a "miracle" by many and viewed with a deal of scepticism by many more. The roses on the head of a statue of the Virgin Mary in the quiet interior of the church-on-the-hill, St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church, Dodge Hill, Stockport are claimed to be as fresh to-day as when placed there on May 4th this year.

Whatever the explanation may be, the interest which the phenomenon has aroused has certainly been widespread. The church has had thousands of visitors curious to view the roses. All the week-end there were unprecedented "crowd scenes". On Saturday about 5,000 visitors climbed the hill, and on Sunday the number was estimated at 8,000. Queues were up to a quarter of a mile in length.'

Do you remember this? Can you shed any light on what really happened? If so, please contact Making History.Ìý

Paulinus, Early Christian Missionary

A listener in north Nottinghamshire says that, according to Bede, the Roman Christian Paulinis baptised people in the River Trent at a place called Tiowulfingacaestir. Is this the place we know today as Littleborough?

Making History consulted Mike Bishop, Senior Archaeologist at Nottinghamshire County Council.

Paulinus, (c. AD 563-644) was the first Christian missionary to the kingdom of Northumbria. He came to England in AD 601 to help St Augustine in his work of conversion. For many years he did this in the south of England, but in 625 King Edwin of Northumbria, still a pagan, married the Christian Aethelburga, daughter of King Aethelbert of Kent who had received St Augustine. Paulinus went with her to her husband's kingdom and the story goes that Paulinus held a famous conference with the highest Northumbrian thegns, probably at a royal palace in Londesborough in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Here he explained to them the advantages of the Christian religion - such as life after death - and this won them over. This was no small achievement because of the size of the Northumbrian kingdom.

The kingdom of Edwin embraced the whole country from the Humber to the Clyde and the Forth, and there is evidence that Paulinus baptised people at Catterick and Brafferton (also on the Swale). He apparently built a church in Leeds (Campoduno), and ancient crosses at nearby Dewsbury and at Whalley were connected with his name. At Lincoln, in ancient Lindsey, Paulinus built a small church and, along with St James the Deacon, baptised people in the Trent at Littleborough in Nottinghamshire. He is also said to have founded Southwell Minster in the same county. In AD 633, King Edwin fell in the Battle of Hatfield Chase (Nottinghamshire). It was unsafe for the Queen to remain in Northumbria and Paulinus returned with her to Kent. He became Bishop of Rochester until his death on 10 October 644. He was buried in the chapter-house of the cathedral there and he became the great Patron Saint of Rochester.

It is Bede (AD 673-735) who mentions Tiowulfingacaestir, and it seems that the Victorian scholar Plummer was the first to associate Littleborough with Bede's Tiowulfingacaestir. According to local historian Andy Nicholson, it is not 100% certain, but there are good reasons why Littleborough probably fits the bill: it is a former Roman town on Tillbridge Lane, a major route between Doncaster and Lincoln, and Edwin used the event as a political statement to show his overlordship over the kingdom of Lindsey (north Lincolnshire) and north Nottinghamshire.

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Vanessa CollingridgeVanessa has presentedÌýscience and current affairs programmes for ±«Óãtv, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Discovery and has presented for ±«Óãtv Radio 4 & Five Live and a regular contributor to the Daily Telegraph and the Mail on Sunday, Scotsman and Sunday Herald.Ìý

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