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Making History
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Begins TuesdayÌý18 October 2005 , 3.00-3.30 p.m
Sue Cook and the team answer listeners' historical queries and celebrate the way in which we all 'make' history.
Series 12
ProgrammeÌý6
22ÌýNovemberÌý2005

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Morecambe Bay Fish Traps

Jack Manning's family have been fishing in Morecambe Bay for over 150 years. Jack, from Flookburgh in Cumbria, is now retired but he has worked on the treacherous sands for most of his life. A few years ago a local sheep farmer who was grazing his animals on the salt marsh pointed out a feature in the bay that Jack had never seen before. What looked like the remains of posts in a V shape has now been confirmed as the site of a medieval fish trap - a series of low walls and posts which supported 'wattled' hedging instead of nets. The traps worked by catching the fish as they were brought down the estuary by the receding tide. Jack has discovered others nearby and had some of the wood radiocarbon-dated, which has revealed that they are probably 700 years old. These posts were first revealed in the year 2000 and now the shifting sands are covering them up again.

Making History consulted Richard Newman, County Archaeologist for Cumbria, and Dr Angus Winchester, Environmental Historian at the University of Lancaster.
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Dr Harold Fox is a leading writer on medieval fishing techniques. His most recent book is called The Evolution of the Fishing Village: Landscape and Society along the South Devon Coast, 1086-1550 (Leopard's Head Press, 2001). It is obtainable from: Leicester Explorations in Local History, Centre for English Local History, 5 Salisbury Road, Leicester LE1 7QR.
King Canute (994-1035)

Making History listener Peter Hall is more than a little fed up with regular references to Canute trying to turn back the waves to demonstrate his powers. He contacted the programme to say that the story is wrong and that the character of this much maligned English king should be reassessed.
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Making History consulted Dr Victoria Thompson at Trinity and All Saints College in Leeds. She told us how the story of the waves might have come about. Canute had no contemporary biographer. Even the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, which is voluble about the character of his predecessor Æthelred, reverts to brief notes on Canute's comings and goings and his administrative innovations, and gives little idea of his personality beyond a general impression of piety and ruthlessness.
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The anecdote about the waves in the chronicles of Henry of Huntingdon is a rare glimpse of a human being, even if it is a literary invention rather than a true event. The anecdote illustrates conventional piety and humility. However, the version as it has entered popular mythology, with the vain and stubborn king deluded into believing he can master the waves, is a more powerful story which may explain why it has such wide currency. One possible origin of the story is in the praise poetry of Canute's court. As a Scandinavian king from a Viking background, coming from a dynasty only recently converted to Christianity, he patronised court poets who practised the ancient art of skaldic verse. Their songs in praise of Canute's heroics include lines such as:
"Cnut, you commanded the mail-clad ships ... the famous lord of swords like lightning, you sailed bold in battle over the sea"
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It seems likely that such poems, with their imagery of a Viking king with mastery over the waves, might lie behind Henry of Huntingdon's story.
Leigh Park Housing Estate

Making History listener Phillip Amey from Portsmouth wrote to the programme to highlight the work of local historian Phil Hammond. Mr Hammond has spent much of his spare time in recent years recording the history of what was once one of the largest housing estates in Europe - Leigh Park near Havant.

The estate was bought by Portsmouth City Council in 1936 at a time when the ideas of Ebenezer Howard and the Garden Cities movement had taken hold in planning departments throughout the UK. The idea was to rehouse as many as 37,000 people from the slum conditions of Portsmouth. The bomb damage in the war further amplified the problem and the first houses were built towards the end of the 1940s. Over the years Phil Hammond and other researchers have interviewed residents about their early memories, and these reveal that people were overjoyed with the new accommodation but that the estate lacked basic amenities such as shops, pubs and adequate transport.

Some of the recordings are available from:

Hampshire Record Office, Sussex Street, Winchester, Hants SO23 8TH
Tel: 01962 847742/846154
Fax: 01962 878681

Making History also consulted Dr Barry Doyle at Teesside University.

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Vanessa Collingridge
Vanessa CollingridgeVanessa has presentedÌýscience and current affairs programmes for ±«Óãtv, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Discovery and has presented for ±«Óãtv Radio 4 & Five Live and a regular contributor to the Daily Telegraph and the Mail on Sunday, Scotsman and Sunday Herald.Ìý

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