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Susan Glasser writes a Letter from Trump鈥檚 Washington column for the New Yorker magazine. Joe Borelli is a Republican New York City Councilman representing Staten Island where he is a critic of the city鈥檚 mayor Bill de Blasio and New York Governor Cuomo.

We hear their contrasting views of how life in socially distanced America has changed. We ask whether the country has become more divided during the four years of Donald Trump鈥檚 Presidency in a conversation between two people with very different perspectives on the issues that may determine how Americans vote in November.