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In the podcast Amanda White and Natalie Glanvill talk through their struggles tying to conceive and hear from others talking honestly and openly about their fertility challenges in a podcast with both hope and despair in equal measure.

This week we talk to Kay Crewdson who is Mummy to Ava and Media Director for @Cradle_EPL which supports bereaved parents with early pregnancy loss. "You may only be 35 seconds pregnant but you've already played out 35 years worth of memories just like that."

Originally broadcast on 鲍鱼tv Radio Humberside.

***Contains strong language and adult conversation.***

You can contact Natalie and Amanda fertility@bbc.co.uk or Twitter @sexdrugslullaby.