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Message 1.Â
Posted by David James Wall (U14752090) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
Tuesday 13th December, 2011. GMT:1122
Re: 'mixing - it'
With respect; what historically were the consequences of different 'SERVICE ARMS' looking over each others shoulders and 'mixing - it' in 'Security and Intelligence': the so called 'SECURE Detail'. As far as 'SIGNINT' (Signals - Intelligence) was concerned why was the 'NSD' (Naval Signals Division) always replaced with the Royal Signals when a so called 'Y - STATION' was in place? Why didn't people stick to their own patch? Or were the 'COMMAND and CONTROL' - 'freaks', nervous about their own place in history? -
Message 2
Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
David
Surely the "patches" have a great deal to do with the different histories of the three arms- the Navy having had a permanent function for centuries, but the Army essentially only really being formed in time of war.. And the RAF was just the product of modern technology.
On the other hand re "sticking to your patch" perhaps it was the Seven Years War especially that saw the real emergence of overall strategic thinking with Pitt the Elder and campaigns like the Quebec campaign in North America and the Bengal Campaign after the Black Hole of Calcutta.. In both cases- unlike for example the Marlborough's great Blenheim Campaign- it was essential that the Army and Navy should be coordinated- and Jesus commented on God's faulty design. Things can go wrong when the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing. That is why we all need brains in which the Left side and Right side are connected- ideally in the same head- though it seems to be a part of the basis of successful marriages.
Cass -
Message 3
Posted by Temperance (U14455940) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
That is why we all need brains in which the Left side and Right side are connected - ideally in the same head... Â
HI Cass,
Have you read "The Master and his Emissary - The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World" by Iain McGilchrist? It's absolutely superb - I started it last week and I can't put it down. Best book I've come across this century.
Highly recommended. (Vive les Right-Brainers!
) Only joking - the key is *balance* - else we plunge headlong into insanity which is what a Left- Hemisphere dominated world seems to be doing at the moment.
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Message 4
Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
Temperance
No I do not think that I have heard of that book..
I think my wife read one about men being from Mars and women from Venus.. But I have had some exchanges today with an ex-pupil which -among other things- highlights what a "weird" person I appeared to be as a teacher-- perhaps mysterious is a better word.. For very early on in life I sought to embrace the total human experience and have been more "comfortable" with my female/feminine side than most of my male contempories..
On the other hand my wife was always a Tomboy and "wears the trousers" as least as much as I do.. though at the same time as I sought as I was growing up to understand my masculine capacity for power, she sought to develop herself as a ballerina of the Russian school.
I have always maintained that the great mistake of Feminism was that it demanded the right of women to behave like men-- whereas everyone of common sense knows that it is women who actually bind societies and human groups together. Men have a capacity for division- divide and rule.. I have just seen that this latest attrocity in Liege is probably connected with a man "losing it" and killing the woman in his life, before going on to kill others and then himself.
These are days when "sisters are doing it for themselves" and no-one is minding the house and home.
Cass -
Message 5
Posted by Temperance (U14455940) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
HI Cass,
Oh, Master and His Emissary isn't Venus and Mars psychobabble!! McGilchrist is an amazingly erudite man. He originally taught English at Oxford (Fellow at All Souls) and then - like you do - decided to retrain as a doctor. He's a former Consultant Psychiatrist and Clinical Director at the Bethlem Royal and Maudsley Hospital.
He ranges with consummate ease over neuroscience, literature, art, music and religion. What you call a polymath - leaves me speechless with awe.
Ah - ballet. But ballet is all about power and control, Cass - the Russian school particularly so. Though how those Russian girls dance the way they do without eating beats me!
Anyway, have a good Christmas and perhaps we'll all meet up on the Englistory site - I see you've joined.
Apologies to David for intruding on this thread.
SST. -
Message 6
Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
Temperance
But surely being a woman is all about power and being in control- only women just aspire to power and control within a collective- and without giving the appearance of controlling at all.
As for me I remember a fellow parent in our Primary School Committee days saying to me after a meeting- I really wish I could be like you. "You just say what you think and believe without worrying about what other people are going to think"
But then as far as I am concerned- to quote a favourite play/film- "Not malicious..I think none harm. I mean no harm. I do no harm".
As for any Cass that you may have seen on another site-- Is that a Cass or a Casseroleon? For tis not me..
Actually I think that the first thread I posted on the MB was about feminist history- and I got 0 responses. The latest thread that I have posted over three years later got zero responses. Clearly if I want response I must seek elsewhere.
Cass -
Message 7
Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
Temperance
Having followed the recent events to some extent perhaps my name has been put up on that site ready.. just in case.. I apply
But I have blighted some posters lives enough... Time to move on and take other paths..
About five-six years ago I wrote a series of essays about the ideas of D.H. Lawrence on his time, and in one of them I dealt with his view that humankind had trecked through a desert-type wilderness only to find itself confronted by an impassible grand canyon type obstacle.. The choice was either to press ahead like lemmings or to retreat back to a point of crossroads where wrong choices had been made, or perhaps not even wrong- because humankind would only now know where that particular desert route ended up. Scouting ahead serves its purposes.
He wrote that in the twenties. One might take the view that the totalitarian states plunged humankind down into that abyss and we have had to fight them in order to have the right to climb up and out to find a better way ahead.
That more or less was what I experienced at a personal level in a dream back in my student days..
Cass -
Message 8
Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
Temperance
You might be amused by this part of a couple of messages that I had from an ex-pupil this morning:
"As for you>>>my goodness; you made me want to scream.you always seemed to have a knowledge that you kept. I wish I had been able to have you as my politics/ economics teacher."
Yes. It was always something of a challenge in classroom discussion to keep my inputs relevant and appropriate as befitted my schoolmasterly functions..
Another pupil in a poem about me many years ago referred to my "spiral staircase of a mind". Well archictecturally it is perhaps the fastest and most efficient way to climb up.. but by the same token perhaps one of the more energetic.. One of these days I will learn to take the lift.. But God willing not yet.
Cass
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