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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by marchog_du_aka_Stoggler (U14998493) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Some of us have frequented these boards (on and off in my case) over a number of years, but now the boards are closing.
So it is time to get all nostalgic and remind ourselves of some good threads, and interesting characters?
For me, Eric Brewster has to be the character who sticks out most in my memory. Claiming to be descended from all sorts of mythical and the great in history - he did have a good imaginiation!
And who was it that was adamant that King Offa didn't exist? -
Message 2
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Eric and his Geneaological Superhighway was hilarious! He not only walked with the giants on this board but he also managed to became quite renowned on Family Trees, I don't think any other poster has quite managed that..........
There were also many memorable and amusing discussions with a certain Hildabloodaxe, who was of the belief that all Shakespeare's plays were historically accurate down to the last detail.
Good days indeed. -
Message 3
Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Stop it! I'm welling up again.
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Message 4
Posted by Huscarl (U1753368) on Friday, 9th December 2011
I just heard what is happening! History gets downgraded once again?
I was a member here from 2005 and left, disillusioned a few years back, but popped back from my own History site (www.englistory.com) to say 'g'bye' to the Beeb History boards.
I remember Harold1066, who got his Uni degree and went off to S.America. Also many great debates about Brunanburh with Tim and others.
Goodbye and all the best! -
Message 5
Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Eric and his Geneaological Superhighway was hilarious! He not only walked with the giants on this board but he also managed to became quite renowned on Family TreesÌý
Those of us on the FT board who remember him still bear the scars..........
PaulaG and I hope one day to make a complete recovery. -
Message 6
Posted by Caro (U1691443) on Friday, 9th December 2011
When I think back on the ±«Óãtv History board it is always John Heseltine I think of first. In the days when we had those responses to individuals which ended up away to the right, he and I often had a lot of fun. I have always thought it was saying nothing much, but have kept some of those exchanges and they have a lot more information (from him) than I remember. But the one thread I remember most was one which began with him mocking NZ for its cricket. (Some things would never change.)
We spent a few days in France with him and his lovely wife Eliane in 2007 with them taking us to mainly Norman historical sites round Caen.
I wasn't here early enough to remember an American (oh, and speaking of Americans, will anyone ever forget Buckskinz/Matt) called James something who drove people mad but then suddenly disappeared.
And I will always remember Nordmann's wonderful erudition, and Elistan's equally so. But there are dozens of people I will remember very fondly from here, many of whom turned up or frequented the bar. (They include you, Cass. And lovely Duncan (AA).)
Cheers, Caro. -
Message 7
Posted by Caro (U1691443) on Friday, 9th December 2011
I tried to email you, Stoggler, but it came back to me. Can you email me?
Cheers, Caro. -
Message 8
Posted by stalti (U14278018) on Friday, 9th December 2011
ah buckskins - a wonderous poster - i will remember him - a rabid right wing yank - wonderous accurate posts - disagree and there was hell to pay - his vitriol was superb - he left because his posts kept getting modded
remember mani - para and special services - gave us the truth on many ops we didnt know the full truth of
and of course paulr - who used to post in a foreign language but still made sense - who is still with us and is the only person who found out what happened to the french soldiers who were brought back from dunkirk lol
st -
Message 9
Posted by marchog_du_aka_Stoggler (U14998493) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Oh God, how could I forget Buckskinz. If nothing else, he was very entertaining. And I always found his posts stimulating as it made you sit up and think about your point of view and try and argue it precisely.
Hi Caro
I've since changed job so that email address is no longer valid and afraid that I lost your one.
I could tell you my email address by of course this being the ±«Óãtv they will soon get rid of the post. As the message boards are closing, perhaps the ±«Óãtv could turn a blind eye...?
Perhaps I could do it in code... Right, take my well-used nickname (beginning with the S...). Then add the AT sign, followed by the company beginning with y and rhyming with wahoo. Then add .co.uk at the end and then you have it.
Let's see how that goes. Fingers crossed!! -
Message 10
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
ah buckskins - a wonderous poster - i will remember him - a rabid right wing yank - wonderous accurate posts - disagree and there was hell to pay - his vitriol was superb - he left because his posts kept getting moddedÌý
He left because he got himself banned (along with many other knowledgeable contributors) during the purge of Andrew Host, from which these boards never did fully recover. From the ±«Óãtv perspective, I'm sure Andrew did an admirable job in implementing the cleanup but from an historical and the contributer perspective, it was a disaster.
In remembering Buckskinz and his anti-British ranting on the Opium Trade I can't help but also remember DL and Rainbowfolly for their wonderful knowledge on Rome and the ancient world, Back to the Darkplace for his military knowlege, Nordmann and Mick Mack for their excellent expertise on Irish history and I'm sure there are more. But most of all I'll remember them for the humour that each bought to the boards, which made the learning experience here an enjoyable pleasure. -
Message 11
Posted by Herewordless (U14549396) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
I'm relatively new and so I don't know or recall many characters as Brewster and Buckskinz (who sounds like the kind of guy I would have locked horns with!).
I have had the pleasure to have debated topics with members such as Theodosius and Nordmann, whose knowledge was incredible. Thanks to you both.
I leave this site the richer for having conversed with such people, and perhaps many others here whom I will never now have a chance to learn from also.
One such might have been Huscarl, whose debates here I missed, but I have been fortuitous to have gleaned his knowledge on topics after joining his own history website, Englistory.com.
Boo hiss to fat Beeb execs (paying talentless moron 'celebs'). All the best to REAL celebs here, and all the very best blessings for Christmas! -
Message 12
Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
It's that elusive combination of knowledge and humour that I'll miss most. I've often surprised the cat by spluttering helplessly, be it with laughter or indignation.
Can that be found elsewhere, I'd be very grateful to know?
I'm not sure how long I've been around, I think I found the board when ID was running the Historical Hysterical Taverna, of blessed memory. Starting to post was initially quite daunting but with everyone's help, I was soon feeling confident enough to venture in deeper and now I'm going to find it so hard to go cold turkey. -
Message 13
Posted by marchog_du_aka_Stoggler (U14998493) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
I leave this site the richer for having conversed with such people, and perhaps many others here whom I will never now have a chance to learn from also.Ìý
I'll second that! -
Message 14
Posted by stalti (U14278018) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
buckskins was an anomaly
he was a "good ole texas boy" -had a few acres of land, a wood burner, plenty of guns, was anglophobic, and championed every action of the usa
turns out his mother was from yorkshire, his dad was jock and he was educated in the uk till he was twelve lol
still sorely missed
anyone remember pegasuseddie = he was a lovely poster - bit like uriah heep - humble opinions
it turned out he was a sniper with the paras in ww2 - he sent me a link to his peoples war page - absolutely fantastic
he was 80 something then and suddenly disappeared - probably a sad ending :o(((
all in all though i think if the money saved on this board keeps Srictly going its all worth it lol
st -
Message 15
Posted by Caro (U1691443) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
Pegasuseddie (Denis) died a little while ago. Plancenoit, another favourite poster of mine, told me. He had personal contact with him, and there were some project to do with a bridge and the war they were involved with.
And there was Sean, sometimes a little angry and banned after calling the moderators words not allowed in polite conversation.
Cheers, Caro. -
Message 16
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
Caro,
yes I remember pegasus eddy. And Plancenoit. I had very nice talks with him especially about the Leopold III contributor from Belgium.he was living in the time near Brussels and we exchanged also messages about the Belgian resistance during WWII. If you could bring him in contact with me again? You can reach me via message privé on Passion Histoire, Yiglu and the new forum I want to contribute to: Historum. They have also a private messageboard. But sadly I am registered and my name is already adverted on the board, but as I didn't receive an E-mail to validate I can't contribute yet. Hope it has as the old Smarts group nothing to do with my E-mail provider.
As for Eliane and John Heseltine. I have from time to time a phone call with her in Holland. And she says she is still fine and with John too. But she is now in full care of the disabled John. What a nice rememberance about his hobby connected with the English soldiers at Ypres WWI and with his Belgian friends the Diggers.
Kind regards and with esteem for all your messages during these years,
Paul.
PS: What one all remembers. For instance about the French explorers of Louis XVI in Australia. Was that with Wollemi (Julie)? Caro, you learnt me also over the years about New Zealand, where I had only a vague knowledge from my child literature as from the explorer Bontekoe.... -
Message 17
Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
I remember Buckskinz, that was in the days when the favourite HH indoor sport was knife-throwing. The vituperative messages made the exchanges between Minette and Catigern seem quite tame -
Message 18
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Sunday, 11th December 2011
It's that elusive combination of knowledge and humour that I'll miss most.Ìý
Me too ferval. It never does to take oneself too seriously. -
Message 19
Posted by TwinProbe (U4077936) on Sunday, 11th December 2011
Hi fellow historians,
I'll drink a toast to everyone this Christmas; in New Zealand sauvignon of course.
This board's known for knowledge and sanity
We post in a spirit of amity
I guess I should leave my thanks to the Beeb
But I fear such would end in profanity.
Thanks to all
TP -
Message 20
Posted by lemylad (U15059831) on Sunday, 11th December 2011
Hi everyone
You probably won't know me as I only posted on these boards briefly a few years ago, but I am a long time follower/reader of the history boards and I've reopened my account just to say thank you to all of you for the pleasure that I have had and the knowledge that I have gained over the years from reading your posts.
Its sad that the ±«Óãtv is closing this board and I'm sure that there will be more people like me who have broadened their knowledge and interest in history through following your discussions.
Best wishes to you all for the future.
Lemylad -
Message 21
Posted by Jane Galloway (U1507747) on Monday, 12th December 2011
I couldn't agree more. Although I am not a frequent poster I also follow the history message boards and particularly the bar very closely. I would thank you all it feels like losing friends.
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Message 22
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Monday, 12th December 2011
Hi Jane and Lemylad,
Why don't you both join us at the new place on Historum? You would both be more than welcome, and there is a new bar set up already. -
Message 23
Posted by Meles meles (U14993979) on Monday, 12th December 2011
I have been on these boards on and off in various reincarnations for quite a few years now – I didn’t realise quite how long until people started mentioning the likes of Plancenoit, Miss Jean Brodie (aka Minette), and good ol’ Buckskins. Often I’ve just read through the discussions although I have been a bit more active since I re-registered this summer - which I did to take my mind of things after my partner died. These boards have been very good therapy I can tell you.
that elusive combination of knowledge and humour Ìý
… seems to sum it all up for me. Thanks to everyone who has entertained and informed me over the years.
Meles -
Message 24
Posted by Caro (U1691443) on Monday, 12th December 2011
Your own posts do that very well, Meles. Sorry to hear we owe them at the moment to your sad news. Best wishes, Caro.
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Message 25
Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Monday, 12th December 2011
That is very sad Meles but if you need some entertainment again, you'll find most of us on Historum.com and englistory.com. Why not join up anyway?
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Message 26
Posted by VF (U5759986) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
For me (VF,VirtualF and Virtualfletch) the standout debate were the "Brewster" threads which still make me laugh all these years later.
I think it's a shame that the boards are closing, but is no suprise. The traffic seemed to slow to a crawl and a lot of the more controversial posters such as Buckskins disappeared taking the debate with it.
So long IslandDawn,Paul Rykier,Anglo Norman ( and his trechebut) Urnangal,Caro,Priscilla,Cass,Nick, and many many others, thank you for some pleasant debate and some happy memories.
Byeeee
Vf -
Message 27
Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
We haven't disappeared from cyberspace,VF, we're still to be found on the boards mentioned elsewhere.
Where are you anyway AN, we need you to maintain the trebuchet in its new home? -
Message 28
Posted by Triceratops (U3420301) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
Come on VF and A-N and Vizzer, join us on historum.
T. -
Message 29
Posted by VF (U5759986) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
Come on VF and A-N and Vizzer, join us on historum.
°Õ.Ìý If the old gang are going I will drop in ! Whatever happened to Backtothedarkplace? He was always hoot, didn't he go undercover On the Food and Drink board? Also the Ice Cool Urban Prophet (Gareth?) , he was a nice chap. -
Message 30
Posted by Triceratops (U3420301) on Tuesday, 13th December 2011
Bttdp stopped posting on here. Some of the others just stopped. Do you remember Dark Kitten and Sabrewulf? here one day,gone the next.
T -
Message 31
Posted by Minette Minor (U14272111) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
I seem to have attracted the anger of many odd people, Buckskinz, Back to the Dark Place and The Kitten BUT so many others have made the turbulence worthwhile, John Heseltine (what he didn't know about History and roses) Shufflin Peasant, Clearwater, Tim Whittle and of course Tas, Paul Ryker, Andrew Spencer, Sweet Sister Temperance, Nordmann, Gran, Ferval, Islandawn and Cass.
To name names is a bad thing I suppose there are so many people whose proper names I've forgotten but have made sound impressions and those not named,(Caro!) who one will remember as soon as the post is made! This place has helped me so much! I know what informed people are thinking and for that I shall always be grateful. Many thanks.
p.s.
No doubt as names form there will be an addendum to this! -
Message 32
Posted by VF (U5759986) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
Bttdp stopped posting on here. Some of the others just stopped. Do you remember Dark Kitten and Sabrewulf? here one day,gone the next.
T
Ìý I remember Sabrewulf, don't remember Dark Kitten! -
Message 33
Posted by Caro (U1691443) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011
Dark Kitten had strong views on Scotland, didn't he? On another board I remember a poster who posted regularly and happily, and then one day we never heard from him again. I can only assume he died suddenly, of an accident perhaps. It was rather odd; we never managed to contact him by email. It is disconcerting when that happens.
But sometimes people just lose addresses or interest or find other things to do. -
Message 34
Posted by Thomas (U15050473) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
In reply to Minette Minor:
I seem to have attracted the anger of many odd people...Ìý
More than just to "seem" this was the case plainly spoken. I remember most of the very controversial debates you had with them and others. You can be sure of that you´ll always be remembered by those members on here which frequented these boards over many years. To me, you´ll be remembered as the one member on here with "the Welsh cause". That means that you had a say on everything concerning Wales and sometimes to bring it on topic.
So what are you going to do when these boards are shut?
Anyway, have a good time and a good start when you join a new boards.
Thomas -
Message 35
Posted by Jak (U1158529) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
Dark Kitten had strong views on Scotland, didn't he?Ìý
I remember him fondly - "DrkKtn". He wrote some amusing historical stuff, way back, on the Scottish board, but his posts attracted the attention of a "stalker" - a vituperative nationalist, who went in for coarse personal insults. Perhaps because of an excess of this, the Scottish board was closed down - about five years ago.
Just looked it all up - memories! Was amazed to see I've been on these ±«Óãtv boards since 2004. Had a lot of fun; they helped me over a bad patch in my life, and I shall miss them. -
Message 36
Posted by Temperance (U14455940) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
...they helped me over a bad patch in my life and I shall miss them. Ìý
Me too, Jak. I was for various reasons in a very dark place (not the coal shed) in the autumn of 2008, and getting involved in the Elizabeth of York thread helped me get myself back together. I don't want to list names, but I must say especial thanks to Minette and Andrew Spencer who got me interested in the whole Richard of Gloucester debate - got me interested in life again in fact!
Yes, Richard III saved me!
Well, no - that's going a bit too far, but you know what I mean.
Right, enough of the embarrassing heavy stuff.
On a lighter note, I must mention - with tremendous *affection* - Minette's spelling. Such idiosyncrasies! Such carefree abandonment of the rules! My favourite Minette misspelling was Henry Tudor's gambol at Bosworth. I have ever since pictured the said Henry skipping merrily over Ambien Hill (or wherever the battle was fought) shouting, "I've won! I've won! Mummy will be so pleased - hurrah for me!"
Her insistence on spelling comma as coma was another Minette classic - we always refer here now to the Oxford coma!
Minette, don't have a huff - I am only teasing you - as I said, with *affection* . Hope you and Andrew will join the Englistory site. Life won't be the same without you two arguing.
SST. -
Message 37
Posted by Herewordless (U14549396) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
Temperance, I am at that very dark place at the moment, and history is pulling me through! If it weren't for this wonderful topic on the few sites I frequent, I might as well have gone under. I'm glad you pulled through.
I agree that many of these posters from the ±«Óãtv site's past ought to find their way to either/both Historum and Englistory, they'd be missed- but there's no way of contacting most of them if they left this board?
They might not even know this board has closed, but they'll eventually read the archives and see the links? -
Message 38
Posted by Thomas (U15050473) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
In reply to Hereword
The links remain on these boards and they´ll work even when some months has passed by. I know that from the ±«Óãtv Radio 3 MBs.
I hope you´ll getting better soon and leave the dark place behind.
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Message 39
Posted by Herewordless (U14549396) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
Thanks for your sentiments, Thomas, I'm stubborn and strong, so I will! Also for confirming the ±«Óãtv link status.
I hope to see you at one of the two aforementioned boards elsewhere soon! -
Message 40
Posted by Meles meles (U14993979) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
Temperance
With regard people's spelling idiosyncrasies I'm sure someone, I wish I could remember who, once put:
"the pen is mighter than the sword..."
.... but unfortunately missed out the space between "pen" and "is" ... and they weren't modded at all!
Fortunately the Historum Forum, as I've only just discovered, allows one to go back and correct one's typographical errors. -
Message 41
Posted by TheodericAur (U14260004) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
Hi All
I'm a really new member (in comparison) but can only say how grateful I am to you all.
I have learnt so much and been utterly entertained by some excellent and knowledgeable minds.
Gwenrian was the the person who didn't believe in Offa and that particular thread was amazing but there have been many others.
As a complete amateur in all of this I would like to thank TP and Nordmann who steered me in the right directions many times and also to the countless others (who I know will forgive me if I do not mention them all because I would be devasted to miss anyone) who have shone a light into those corners that are difficult to see.
The facts that I have gleaned have been quite exceptional and the kindness and patience shown by people who have challenged my interpretations and speculations has made it a very enjoyable experience.
I hope that we will all meet again on the other boards mentioned and I am already discussing Boudica (who else at the moment?) with people on Englistory who have kindly welcomed me...... and no doubt everyone else.
I would also like to thank the ±«Óãtv for these boards in the first place without which my life would have been a lot poorer.
The only real sadness is whether we will be allowed to fire the trebuchet with whatever contents ever again........?
Farewell (hopefully for a short time only)......
Best Wishes - TA -
Message 42
Posted by Temperance (U14455940) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Hi Hereword,
Keep strong and keep posting! History - and debate with kind and friendly people - is the best medicine.
I'm psyching myself up for my first post on Englistory. I am quite nervous!
Hi Badger,
What a shocking error. I'm glad I didn't notice it.
Right - was Mary Boleyn the good time who was had by all? Alison Weir says no and Big Alison is always right! Over to the New Board (cup of tea first). -
Message 43
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
So it is time to get all nostalgic and remind ourselves of some good threads, and interesting characters?Ìý
The following thread from January 2007 springs to mind:
Pure joy!
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Message 44
Posted by VF (U5759986) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
Anybody per chance,remember when the Brewster threads occurred?
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Message 45
Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
VF, why not join us on the historum.com group? TA, have you joined yet? Some people have changed their names and I do get confused.
I can recommend the englistory board too, pretty much all of us are on that as well. -
Message 46
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
There where two different Brewster visits Viz. The last visit was possibly a couple of years ago and the time before that may have been as long as 4 or 5 yrs ago.
You could enquire on Family Trees, they may remember as Andrew sent EB over there to post his family stuff. I remember he frightened the living daylights out of the good ladies though, they are not likely to forget! I also remember digging up the link to the first time he appeared and posting it, so if you can find his last time here you will find the first time.
Sorry I can't remember more.
I hope you are going to join us over on Historum and/or Englistory? The quiz and bar etc is continuing on Historum and 20 people from here are there already with hopefully more to come. There are also quite a few on Englistory. Please do come over. -
Message 47
Posted by Tim of Acleah (U1736633) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
I first joined when the ±«Óãtv brought out its list of the 100 greatest Britons in 2002. I can remember Minette when she was Miss Jean Brodie, John Heseltine (Hes) and James Walsh from Paraguay also a couple of fellow 'Anglo-Saxons' named after Edmund Ironside and Harold Godwinson.
Rather less frequent on the history pages since joinging the smarthgroups world history page.
I was also on the ±«Óãtv science pages before they got vastly reduced in the number of pages (fond memory of KTDykes with his excellent knowledge of Mamallian evolution and very polite) and also the religious pages. There were quite a ferocious debate on both following the tsunami.
I can also remember someone going around and visiting every ±«Óãtv page in turn to ask a question on each, would not take him long now.
Tim -
Message 48
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
Here's one of the Brewster threads:
Quite remarkable. -
Message 49
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
Remarkable is an appropriate word!
I remember Eric would never believe that the name Brewster didn't have a grand origin, but actually means a female brewer. Reality wasn't important in his research. -
Message 50
Posted by VF (U5759986) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
Here's one of the Brewster threads:
Quite remarkable. Ìý Ahh, happy days...
I had a right old chortle reading that again!
Thanks Vizzer for digging it out!
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